Nash 112 line out to PA, and still hear the amp?

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Stan Townsend
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Nash 112 line out to PA, and still hear the amp?

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Can I run my PV nash 112 into a PA with the "line out" and still hear the amp speaker? Line out XLR seems to cut the amp speaker.
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Re: Nash 112 line out to PA, and still hear the amp?

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You need a Peavey EDI direct box. I don"t know if they still sell new ones, but a google search shows lots of used ones for sale.
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Re: Nash 112 line out to PA, and still hear the amp?

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Thank you, Bill. I guess that means "no" to my question w/o some external EDI box or
? Thanks.
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Re: Nash 112 line out to PA, and still hear the amp?

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I don't know about other's N-112's but...

On my Nashville 112 , inserting a proper, balanced XLR cable into the "Line Out" output does NOT mute the speaker.

I gig like this all the time, sending Line Out to the PA and maintaining the speaker out while on stage.

DI is NOT required.

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Re: Nash 112 line out to PA, and still hear the amp?

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What Howard said. If your NV112 has an XLR jack, you wouldn't need an external DI box. That's the reason they built it in.

I don't have a NV112 but that's what the Peavey online manual shows.

https://assets.peavey.com/literature/ma ... lle112.pdf
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Re: Nash 112 line out to PA, and still hear the amp?

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An XLR line output has no switching mechanism so has no way to interrupt the signalto the power amp and speaker. If you are losing signal to the speaker when using an XLR line out that's definitely not the culprit unless the line you plugged into it is facing a dead short in the cable or destination device. Even 1/4" preamp outputs are rarely wired to interrupt the feed to the power amp, that switching is generally seen on the power amp input. Peavey's instruction manual states that this is in fact the case with the Nashville 1200, even using the 1/4" line out should not interfere with signal to the speaker. Check your connections, cables and conclusions.

https://assets.peavey.com/literature/ma ... lle112.pdf
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Re: Nash 112 line out to PA, and still hear the amp?

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I nearly always mic'ed my 112. The one time I used the XLR out the internal speaker worked fine. Seems to me the board on that gig would only take a 1/4" so I put an XLR-to-!/4" transformer on the board end. The sound guy wanted that(don't remember why) instead of a mic-to-transformer-to-board. :\
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Re: Nash 112 line out to PA, and still hear the amp?

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Stan Townsend wrote: 8 Aug 2025 1:36 pm Can I run my PV nash 112 into a PA with the "line out" and still hear the amp speaker? Line out XLR seems to cut the 0amp speaker.
IF the mixer is sending phantom power to the XLR connector it is conceivable that the amp is going into a protection mode to avoid losing all of its magic smoke. YOU DO NOT WANT PHANTOM POWER APPLIED TO AMPLIFIER XLR LINES OUT!
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Re: Nash 112 line out to PA, and still hear the amp?

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I had a 112 years ago and had the same problem. The Tech that repaired it said it was an earthing problem of some sort.
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Re: Nash 112 line out to PA, and still hear the amp?

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Murray McDowall wrote: 11 Aug 2025 11:18 pm I had a 112 years ago and had the same problem.
What problem?

Run the XLR "LINE OUT" and the internal speaker will function just fine.

That's the answer to the question at hand.

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Re: Nash 112 line out to PA, and still hear the amp?

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That was the problem Howard.
There was no sound coming from the speaker with the XLR plugged into the amp.
I have never had that problem with any other amp.
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Re: Nash 112 line out to PA, and still hear the amp?

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As stated already - if you plug a correctly-wired XLR cable into the XLR line-out of a Peavey Nashville 112 amp and the speaker is muted, then there is something wrong. Like Howard - if I use my Nashville 112, I generally send a line-out to the PA system's board for sound reinforcement, and the speaker does not mute. Muting the speaker would defeat the purpose of this line-out. Speaker muting is generally a feature of a headphone-out, not a line-out.

So if your speaker is muting, I would first make sure that you test with a known-good XLR cable. First, just plug the female end of the XLR cable into the line-out - don't plug in the other end yet. Check that - if the speaker is not muting, you know it's not the amp. If the speaker is muting, then get the amp to a competent tech to find the problem.

Assuming that the speaker is not muting with just the cable plugged into the amp - now plug the male end of the XLR cable into whatever you're using - I assume a PA mixer of some sort. As Dave G. says - make sure there's no phantom power being applied. If the speaker is now muting, you know something is wrong at the other end that needs to be fixed.